Wednesday, October 9, 2013

An Open Letter to Diana Gabaldon

Dear Diana,

Yes, I know I've already posted some complaints about the things you've written. However, given that I've done some growing up since then, I have some more.

You style yourself as size-positive, but here's the thing: having a few characters of size isn't the same as truly giving fat people positive fictional role models - not if they're written the way you portray them. And as a woman of some size who's in a relationship with a beautiful, intelligent, thoughtful woman of considerable size, I have a problem with them.


 You're not size-positive if your largest female character who actually manages to get some is 5'6" and 128 pounds (nine stone, as written). Someone like that is not going to have a "fine round arse," and unless the rest of her is skin and bones, she's probably not going to have big breasts. At 50, after having gone through a frightfully traumatic pregnancy, she's probably not going to have a "concave" stomach. People gain weight as they age, even if they're naturally thin, and that's not a bad thing. Ignoring that? Not cool.

Incidentally, you know who DOES have a big butt and round breasts? Me. You know what my stats are? 165 pounds, 5'7". Look at the figure types of the actual people around you and think again.

Having a couple of female characters who happen to be fat is just as harmful as having none if you choose to portray them as desexualized matrons. If fat, "waddling", played-for-laughs Malvina Bug gives a clinical description of how flattened and "ugly" her breasts were after years of constant miscarriages, when in the same series three men - including the sadistic, bisexual villain who prefers her husband - describe your protagonist's breasts as "white velvet," that's problematic.

You're not size-positive if the second wife of your male beefcake (who, not-so-coincidentally, is the protagonist's main romantic competition) is described as having facial skin that "stretches plumply over her flushed cheeks" at age forty, while the protagonist gloats about having remained thin at fifty. This is heavily implied to be just one of many things that make her an unappealing person. True, Laoghaire had flaws and plenty of them, but having gained some weight after bearing two children is not one of them!

You're not size-positive if the main visual marker that a woman has turned to witchcraft and become evil consists of the fact that she's now fat and "grotesque."

Because - well, you know what? People of size, especially women, have for years been told that we're an epidemic, that we're a sickness, that we lack control, that we control everyone around us, that we take up too much space, that we don't contribute enough, that we waste resources, and that we're a symptom of everything that's wrong with [insert country here]. Even in the 1700s, it seems, we can't escape that judgment.

Second verse, same as the first: Geillis Duncan had plenty of flaws, but being fat was not one of them. 

You're not size-positive if your female protagonist, held up as the Best Mother Ever by past and present characters alike, tells her daughter "not to get fat" in what she thinks will be their last communication ever - and that daughter, raised in the age of Twiggy, has nothing to say about it.

You're not size-positive if curves are fetishized on a skinny woman who has them in the "right places," but not even admired on perfectly healthy women who just happen to be large.

You're not size-positive if the woman who had a hand in raising your male protagonist and who cared for his temporally peripatetic wife is made into a wiggling, jiggling joke, both within and outside of the narrative. (Any semblance of Mrs. Fitz's beauty, we hardly knew ye.) 

You're not size-positive, period.

And guess what, Diana? When you attempt to bullshit someone who has a photographic memory, you should expect to have a few unflattering snapshots caught on film.

43 comments:

  1. seriously? Diana's books are her imagination! She has every right to see people any way she wants! Who the heck are you to tell her what she should think! get over it!

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  2. Wait....are you saying you have a photographic memory? If so, you may want to check "the photo" with Mrs. Bug's first name on it. It's definitely not Malvina.

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    1. MURDINA, sorry. Only off by three letters!

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    2. Midterms are going to make my brain implode one of these days...thanks for catching it.

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  3. Write your own book on BBW, if your that intelligent, and keep out of others business. Diana Gabaldon is an amazing writer, as well as a decent woman! Her successes proves she knows what she is doing. And before you get your panties in a bunch, I am a BBW, and I approve this message!

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  5. Sheesh, lady, you have too damned much time on your hands... maybe you should go out and DO something about the cause you profess to be so keen on...

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  6. Interesting points. Those commenting who engage in ad hominem attacks don't come off as very credible. I love the Outlander series as much as any of you, but that doesn't mean I'm going to insult someone to provides some critical commentary.

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  7. As a woman who had been overweight my entire life, and a LOVER of these books for more than half that time, I respectfully ask, 'what the heck'?? Fiction is fiction and entirely dependent on the imagination of the author!!! I love the world that Diana has created, with ALL types of characters. If you want a story featuring Geillie, Loaghair, Mrs. Bug and Mrs. Fitzgibbons, then write it. This sorry is about Claire &Jamie!!!

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  8. LOL! while I love the Outlander series as a whole, there are some things she writes that just don't sit right with me. you've hit 1 on the head.

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  9. I am also a woman "of some size" and my opinion is this: If the only thing you glean out of Diana Gabaldon's books is the fact that her "size-positive" characters are not accurate enough for your liking then you should try to read the books for the story itself instead of reading to pick out flaws. I guess the other option would be to find another author who is more to your liking.

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  10. You do realize this is FICTION, right???? Holy cow, I'm not thin but not obese either--considerably short, average weight with curves to spare, middle-aged mother of three and not offended at all by Diana's portrayal of characters as she sees them!!! Most likely because I have a grip on reality that allows me to understand that It is just FICTION!!!! Go write your own books with characters that align with your way of thinking. To each their own so let her alone you big (hiding behind a computer keyboard) bully!

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  11. Blogger needs to get over her hypocritical self.

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  12. Okay, everyone, LISTEN UP.

    This is my blog. You have every right to disagree with what I write, and I can understand why you disagree, too (hell, I used to be a fan of DG and I still think she can spin a great yarn), but I also have the right to post on here without getting flamed - especially when I've done nothing wrong.

    I don't care if you want to tell me you disagree, but anyone else who cares to tell me that I'm a hypocrite or a bully - neglecting the fact that you are telling someone with AUTISM that they're being a hypocrite for getting their opinions out in the most accessible way possible - will have their comment summarily deleted and their ass reported.

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    1. Whoa. And I mean that most sincerely.

      I had considered leaving an opinion until I read this. Especially the part that goes - 'neglecting the fact that you are telling someone with AUTISM that they're being a hypocrite for getting their opinions out in the most accessible way possible'

      Fair enough, I thought, and looked at your profile. The only 'a' word you really use to describe yourself was 'agnostic'. Then I read through your posts. Now I admit that I didn't read all the replies so you may have explained somewhere that you are autistic and I missed it.

      So unless I missed something *very* obvious ~ which isn't impossible ~ there is no way that the average poster here is going to know that you are autistic with self-declared communication issues.

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    2. Being the mother of a wonderful son who is autistic - I must say I take offense to you using it as some sort of excuse for your writings. My husband and I raised our son to believe that his autism just makes him unique, but it does not give him an excuse, or as a way to get away with saying anything he wants. You ARE welcome to your own opinions, I just don't accept your use of 'Autism' when expressing them.

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    3. Having had parents who drilled into my head that I must act neurotypical no matter my state of mind, I can assure you that I am not using my autism as an "excuse" for my writings - in fact, I should think that I have a valid point and don't need to be excused at all. What I meant by that was that bullying people who were born with communication issues by saying that writing on the Internet is equal to "hiding behind one's keyboard" is completely unacceptable. In effect, I meant it as "be careful whom you're insulting, because you never know why they choose their modes of communication."

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  13. Great post!

    As a BBW and an avid fan of DG's work, I can see the point you are making. All of these points come from Claire's POV. Most of these are thoughts or comments that she has made throughout the series. I tend to see these less as a flaw of DG but more as a character flaw of Claire. We must remember that authors are not the embodiment of their main characters despite how many similarities they have. I am unsure but I feel DG uses this to help give Claire some dimension (she can't be perfect) and she helps give some perspective to the time period Claire grew up in. Fat stigma and prejudice didn't really start to take hold until the 1940s when food shortages and rations were a reality (WWII). Excessive weight was seen as greed. I agree with you that these thoughts and comments of Claire's may be offensive if they were directed at me. DG does a good job otherwise of being tolerant and open minded. I try not to let these little details dissuade me, for they are a very small part in huge universe of Outlander. Anyways why do we really read Outander? For Jamie Fraser of course!

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    1. This is exactly what I thought while I read this post (and the books). Kudos!

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    2. I think you have it exactly right, Amanda! I think it's a character flaw of Claire's, rather than Diana's, also. (And if you've seen a picture of the author, while she's quite attractive, she's not Twiggy) Also, do remember the scene where Jamie recounts being a young punk who'd say anything for a laugh, without considering whether it might be hurtful -- and how he got busted for making Mrs. Fitz the, er, butt of the joke. And how he regretted it. And how he knew better than to not value someone because of their exterior. Murdoch is not known for being a looker, and yet we know his heart is the truest. We know, too, that Colum is not a prime specimen of manhood, either, but yet he commands all kinds of respect. Jack Randall is handsome, and yet the embodiment of evil. Ditto with Geillis, long before we ever meet up with her diseased dissipated self in Voyager. I think you might be being unfair to the author. And I'm both shorter and fatter than you, and that's what I think.

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    3. That's an interesting point Amanda, and well made

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  14. I think you make a good point, and I'm upset that so many people are giving you a hard time for speaking your mind. Did DG ever claim to be "size-positive?" If so, I think that's malarky, to put it politely. I've read all the Outlander books multiple times, and I believe that she seems to possess the same bias against people of size that the general American culture presents. And as a size 18/20, that does irk me. On the other hand, I'm still a fan. No one's perfect, and we all have biases.

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  15. I don't think I've ever seen or heard anywhere that Diana is trying to be "size positive". If she has then please share where and when. With that said, I think we should all take a deep breath and remember that this is a work of FICTION and is meant to be enjoyed. I myself have always been plus sized and have NEVER once been offended by anything in this series. I LOVE these books for what they are- a wonderful story. I think it is a shame that people try to take something meant for enjoyment and try to make issues out of it. There are too many things in this world right now that need to be taken issues with but this is not one of them. Just read and enjoy. If you cant enjoy then put them down and go on to something else you can find enjoyment with. Just my two cents.

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  16. A work of fiction is a work of fiction...I have read all the books many times and have no issues with distinguishing reality from a fantasy that a writer has created. It would seem that you feel that each and every character in Diana's works should be a 'real' person. Perhaps some time spent with a dictionary to review definitions on your part might be in order?

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  17. 1st – This is your blog and your opinion perfectly valid.
    2nd – By opening this blog up to comments, you accept that the comments made, other people’s opinions, are just as valid. You scorched DG and were scorched a few times in return. Fair is fair.
    3rd – as a FAT woman – I get so tired of all the political correct CRAP. FAT – come on everybody say it. FAT! For those of us so encumbered of body, embrace who and what you are and KNOW you are still a person of worth. I am 5’1”, weigh in at 245 and will be 48 on Monday – I think I qualify as a FAT woman! As such, I am actually more offended by the blog than any of DG’s books. FICTION…a made up story that has touched countless lives in very positive ways. Yeah it sucks that us larger gals (or guys for that matter) seldom get starring roles or the great love interests in the stories. However, I’ve seen in RL that the guys that LOOK like the great storybook heroes seldom ACT like heroes. Sam just may be an exception. As a fat woman I say - get over it. I read fiction, like most people I’m sure, to get AWAY from RL; to find myself in another time, place and person.
    4th – writing is something you obviously embrace. You write clearly, distinctly and well. So, use that talent to, how did you put it? “giving fat people positive fictional role models”. Write your own sweeping, stirring, life changing and embracing novels with the characters you seem to think are so vitally important to give the world instead of sniping at someone who had done it.

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  18. No fair jumping all over people because you have AUTISM when no one knows it. I looked--couldn't find an reference to it until you wanted to use it as a defense.

    That said, I agree with most of what was said in the comments. Maybe you could try to educate yourself about the human condition from perspectives other than yours--as in the rest of us are just happy with the story.

    You would lose some weight by losing that heavy chip on your shoulder.

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  19. Oh hell I am 50ish overweight but when I read these books ...I am Claire.... and I am thin and beautiful. Dont take that way from me. My imagination is very healthy.

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    1. And I'm sure that you're beautiful at whatever weight you are. Fat doesn't equal unhealthy or ugly.

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  20. Jamie Fraser can not exist in reality but it is precisely for this reason that all we both love.

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  21. Doodling - Obviously, you're entitled to blog anything you want here... It is YOUR blog. However, for someone who is "trying to educate myself about the human condition from perspectives other than mine", your falling a bit short in the realm of compassion. I haven't walked a minute in your shoes and am fairly confident you haven't been in mine or Diana's but I would expect that you are open to the concept that all of us deserve respect. If Diana's work was dangerous and you felt you needed to protect us from, I might get why you would be so harsh. Why wouldn't you just stop reading what you so clearly see as substandard to what is acceptable? When I look around at the world I see ALL sorts of shapes and sizes of beings; each of them doing the job of living their own lives. Maybe you should just let go of Diana's work and get on to your own.
    Be well, Doodling. Know you are love. - Becklea

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    1. I actually stopped reading the books a few years ago, but with the miniseries bringing about a new influx of fans, I got pretty steamed that hardly anyone seemed to notice that the books can be problematic.

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  22. Most of the charaters were written within a time when most women were big. Claire just happen to be from a time when most women were small. She worked while she was raised by her Uncle an then she was a nurse in the war when people were being rationed with food. Of course she's slim she was probley starving most of the time. Did you notice how she ate in the book. When she had food she loved she ate alot. If the food wasn't that good she didn't. You need to pay alittle more attention to what you read.

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  23. I understand what you're saying, I really do. I just want to throw this out there: we are in Claire's head, seeing nearly everything through her eyes. Claire has plenty of good points; she's intelligent, witty, sharp, and clever. Her looks are one thing--and yes, I do know svelte women with fine, fat arses and rounded breasts (I used to be one of them--I'm a bit more zaftig now, however! Lots more to love. Haha. I am 5'3" and was about 110-112 in the old days. It's just how my body is--or was--made.)

    Claire is not perfect, nor is she supposed to be. She definitely has biases. She is suspicious, jealous, quick to judge/act, and can be a tough pill to swallow at times. It seems only natural to me that she would be happy to see that Laoghaire has not aged as she, herself, has. She loves Jamie with a fierceness, a possessiveness. He is hers and hers alone. She cannot bear the thought that he actually entered a marriage with her old competition--a woman who tried to sabotage her--possibly even have her killed, a woman who loathed her with a vengeance. Of course she would be happy to see Laoghaire looking a little worse for the wear.

    I do personally know women who have regained their figures after multiple childbirth experiences, including those who have undergone c-sections. They can even wear bikinis! Alas, I am not one of them. But that doesn't mean that they don't exist...Claire is one of the lucky ones.

    As to Mrs. Fitz and Mrs. Bugg, perhaps they have not been so lucky in the weight department. But there's nothing inherently wrong with them (except for Mrs. Bugg's willingness to go along with Arch's plans--I took that as a whole "stand by your man" kind of thing, though). And I do not feel as if their bodies take away from who they are as characters. Their body shapes are more like my grandmother's, which is appropriate for their ages/lifestyles. Claire has had the benefit of modern times, medical knowledge and any necessary treatment; it appears that she's also been blessed with good genes and that she is pretty darn vain. After all, she does worry about her own looks. Truth be told, I don't think that's an unnatural behavior--I do it myself, as do most women I know. And remember when she told Brianna not to get fat? I thought that was shallow as hell and it really rubbed me the wrong way...but it is true to Claire's character. She is not sweet and docile and politically correct. She is who she was written to be: a tough-talking woman who is determined to make things happen her way. She doesn't care if you're offended by her words.

    Also remember that being plump or even obese back then usually meant that you were doing well financially. So if several ladies in the books are described thus, it can be said that they were well taken care of. Yes, Geillis gained a noticeable amount of weight. Well, she was as rich as she could be and did little else than experiment with magic and boys...and apparently, she enjoyed her meals as well. Not so hard to see why she would have thickened around the middle as time went on.

    I would argue that DG's many of slender characters are as flawed as any of the overweight. Malva and BJR immediately come to mind. Both attractive, yet so unconcerned with doing the right thing ( I know Malva was abused but we could argue that lots of people are abused and don't do terrible things to other people, right?). Jocasta is terribly conniving. Bree is almost unbearable at times. Geneva was a scheming little hooker. Jamie is gorgeous but he's a criminal... with a heart of gold...and he hangs out in brothels but doesn't bed any of the women, right? But that's just the point--all of the characters are flawed to varying degrees. That's what makes the books so interesting--they seem like real people, and the suffer the consequnces of their actions.

    I could go on, but I am sure I've rambled enough. :)

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    1. See, the thing is, I'm an advocate for fat acceptance and Health at Every Size, and I don't see Geillis, Mrs. Bug, or Mrs. Fitz as having been "unlucky" or given "bad genes." They're just fat. And that should be perfectly okay - without being given a lot of snarky narrative comments.

      The problem, as I see it, isn't that Claire is un-PC; she can be a real jerk at times and that's something you correctly noted. The problem is that Diana wrote characters who directly play into harmful stereotypes about fat people and hasn't been called out on it. She has said that her inclusion of people like Mrs. Fitz and Mrs. Bug is tantamount to equal representation, but bad representation can be just as damaging as none at all.

      Fat doesn't equal unhealthy. Thin doesn't equal healthy. Our standards of beauty need to change, and literature is a good place to start.

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  24. Also, everyone who's commented about the autism thing - you have a point, and I wasn't trying to imply that you should somehow be able to tell that I'm autistic. I was saying that a lot of you were using unnecessarily harsh words with someone who happens to have autism and is not, in fact, hiding behind a keyboard.

    As a matter of fact, I do advocate for fat acceptance in real life, and I try to make sure that the people in my life - fat and thin - have the facts about diet culture and the harmful effects of self-hatred.

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  25. Hi there,
    While I respect your opinion about Diana Gabaldon, I just wanted to point out that it is entirely possible for Claire, at her height and weight, to have the physical features Diana has given her. I myself, am 5'6 and 119 lbs. I have breasts (a D cup), a round bottom, and a flat tummy despite having born children. I am also 30 years old; roughly the same age as Claire when she first married Jamie and had Brianna. I definitely do not look like I am skin and bones, and I have a nice healthy appetite (most days I eat more than my husband). I have a quick metabolism, and oddly enough, when I do lose weight, it's never in my bum or breasts. And although I am my toughest critic, and have body/self-esteem issues as well, I only wanted to point out that it isn't at all impossible for a character like Claire to be real.

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    1. Oh, I'm not disputing the fact that it's possible. I'm just saying that it's not *likely*, and it shouldn't be the only body type glorified in literature.

      You're naturally thin; that's fine, and I'm sure you look lovely whatever size you are. Fat women should be afforded the same courtesy.

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  26. I'm sure this discussion is totally closed, but I think the exact same thing. I like her story, a lot. But her father hating is terrible.

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  27. You've vocalized exactly what bothers me about Outlander. The series is promoted as an "empowered" fantasy for women, but its incessant body-shaming undermines that.

    Fat-shaming is why I struggle to enjoy this series, along with many other old-school romance books (where "old" and "fat" are treated as character flaws.) Outlander's nonstop body-related comments, "damsel in distress" plotlines, incessant "not like other girls" crap, and a lack of woman-being-friends-with-women-and-instead-cutting-each-other-down makes me question how this is supposed to be a sexy romantic fantasy.

    It feels as though every time I'm lulled into enjoying that series by the pretty writing and engaging characters, I get a "we hate fat people" sucker-punch.

    Well-written critique!

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